ASK any boxing writer who theyโd like to interview, and chances are the heavyweight champion of the world will be on the shortlist.
Journalists have made their names by writing about the champions of the sportโs glamour division, or gained entry to an exclusive club of influence and celebrity.
But there was something different about my first conversation with a heavyweight champ. Something down to earth. Something accessible and honest. Something grateful for the platform I was providing, rather than the other way round. And somethingโฆ female.
Lani Daniels, you see, is the womenโs world heavyweight champion.
Furthermore, she is the only one right now, and one of just five women to ever hold a โbig fourโ belt in the biggest weight class.
To win a โworldโ title of any description is a proud moment, and so it was for Daniels, and all the more eye-catching that it happened at heavyweight โ even if it was due to circumstance rather than intent. Daniels just happened to be a heavyweight at the time, as the self-proclaimed โbiggest yo-yoโ has gone up and down the scales throughout her boxing career, and throughout her adult life. The 5ft 7ins New Zealander has been as high as 240lbs outside the ring, and as low as 158lbs in it. On May 27 this year, when she scored a unanimous decision over Samoaโs Alrie Meleisea in Auckland to win the inaugural IBF womenโs heavyweight title, she scaled 180ยผlbs.
It should be noted that, due to the smaller number of bigger females, most sanctioning bodies class women above 175lbs as heavyweights (Meleisea was 201ยฝlbs). This shallower talent pool also means that, unlike the men, more pounds do not necessarily mean more dollars. And so Daniels, for both fiscal and physical reasons, may soon drop down.
โI feel my best weight is actually super-middleweight,โ she says. โIโm just at heavyweight now because I gained weight when I stopped boxing [from October 2019 to April 2022], but now, with the training I do, I struggle to keep the weight on.โ
She is, however, committed to at least one more heavyweight fight; a title defence against South Africaโs Razel Mohammed on August 26 in Auckland. Daniels claims to know little about her challenger โ โAll I know is sheโs a southpaw and sheโs had five fightsโ โ and sees the match more as a way to raise her profile in the hope of securing bigger fights against smaller women.
โIf I could pick anyone [to fight], it would be Savannah Marshall,โ she says. โSheโs been my inspiration ever since I watched her in the Commonwealth Games [in 2014]. Iโve always looked up to Savannah. I like the way she carries herself. Watching her was so cool. I had this epiphany: โIโm gonna be a world champ one day!โ. She was so good, but I thought โI could beat herโ โ even though Iโd only had one [amateur] fight!
โIโd love to fight over there [in the UK] โ and if it was against Savannah, hell yes!โ
For now, though, and for at least one more fight, Daniels remains a heavyweight. Yet, while her being the worldโs only female heavyweight champion was the obvious hook for this story, itโs not even the most interesting thing about โThe Smiling Assassinโ.
Danielsโ story is a classic redemption tale; one of a wayward life steered in the right direction by boxing. Among its chapters are ones on addiction, weight gain, and mental health struggles, all of which were triggered by a harrowing opener involving the death of a child โ and all of which were overcome thanks to the power of our sport.
โMy little brother Tukaha was just 11 when he passed away,โ she says. โHe had leukaemia and it was rapid. He was diagnosed in July 2002 and passed away the following May. I was 14. It was a huge shock.
โI just blocked it out for 10 years,โ says Daniels, now 35. โI didnโt talk about it. I couldnโt manage my emotions, so I self-medicated. Alcohol and cannabis made me feel better for the moment, but over time it became an addiction.
โI dropped out of school when I was 15. I worked at McDonaldโs and Burger King for eight years. I was making my own income, but my main drive was to feed my habits. Life became overwhelming. Some of it, I canโt even remember. I was under the influence more than I was not. Iโd drink anything and everything, whatever was cheapest, until I blacked out. The only times I was sober was in front of my parents; I didnโt want them to see me like that. But [elsewhere] Iโd be the life of the party. Nobody would have thought I was depressed. I hid my grief well. I never used harder drugs, though. I put that down to being raised by a good family with strong morals.โ
Other members of that good family would have been rocked by Tukahaโs death, too, and it was the way Laniโs sister Caroline channelled her own grief in a more positive direction that ultimately led Daniels to find boxing, and with it a way out of her turmoil.
โCaroline was a mental health nurse and the hospital had a charity fight night for a cancer foundation. She wanted to do it because our little brother had passed away from cancer,โ says Lani.
โI saw the benefits that had on her life โ she looked happier, she lost weight, she had this glow about her โ so I wanted a bit of that.
โDuring her training [for the charity fight], her coach noticed she had a bit of talent and thought sheโd do quite well in the amateurs. I joined up and we started doing it together and went hard for four years.โ
The sisters both had decent amateur runs. Caroline had โmore than 20โ bouts, while Lani had โabout 30 and won a couple of New Zealand titlesโ.
Lani wanted to be like Caroline outside of the ring, too. She returned to education and started building towards her own career as a mental health nurse. Other siblings (Lani is one of nine) were also a great help.
โIโd already decided before I started boxing I was going to make changes, but it was my sisters who really helped me do it,โ she says. โMy family have always been supportive. They could see how I was living and knew I could do better. My two older sisters really stepped up and made sure I did it, because I lacked confidence.
โI did a foundation course, because Iโd dropped out of school, and that was easy, so I didnโt change much in terms of my lifestyle. I passed the foundation course and started a nursing degree. I thought I could still party and study, but I failed my first semester. That was the eye-opener. I needed to change. I thought โoh my god, Iโm gonna be a loserโ.
โAround the same time, Caroline started boxing, then I started it. I was about 110kg and I was embarrassed Iโd let myself go, as I was sporty growing up. I found I just really, really loved boxing.โ
Danielsโ boxing career progressed in tandem with her studies, and she graduated in both senses, earning a Bachelor of Nursing from Waikato Institute of Technology in 2016 and turning pro the next year.
She won the New Zealand light-heavyweight title in just her second paid bout, while also working as a mental health nurse at Whangerei Hospital. And, while boxing instilled in her the physical discipline she required to beat her addictions, her day job provided a pathway to overcoming the emotional side of the grief she still struggled with.
โPhysically, I was in really good shape, but I still had a lot of self-doubt, so I worked a lot on my mental wellbeing,โ she says. โI was seeing a counsellor provided through my job. It was like a whiteboard for my thoughts, and I didnโt have to censor what I was saying. I was used to speaking with my family [about my grief], but I couldnโt be 100 per cent honest with them as I was worried about how they were feeling.
โJust having a neutral person to be honest and open with, and to know youโre not going to hurt someone else, that really helped. My problem is I worry about everyone else.
โMy advice to anyone whoโs struggling is just to reach out and speak, although I know thatโs the hardest part. Find support lines; there are a lot out there. Do a bit of โshoppingโ โ you might not get the perfect fit right away, but thereโs someone out there for everybody. Donโt give up.โ
Daniels certainly hasnโt given up โ though a couple of times sheโs been tempted to walk away from boxing.
The first time was in October 2019 following a string of three bouts without a win โ two draws against a journeywoman following a defeat to Brazilian-born Kiwi Geovana Peres for the WBO 175lbs belt.
โPeres was good; she was hungry, she wanted it,โ says Daniels. โThe fight was good and I got heaps of good feedback, but I didnโt stick to my fight plan. I didnโt give it the respect it deserved. I deserved to lose, but it sucked losing. It made me a bit depressed, really.โ
For a woman prone to depression, it was not a good mindset to carry into a boxing ring. There followed the two draws against Tessa Tualevao, who could claim just one win on her record, and Daniels admits: โI think she beat me in the last one. I wasnโt there mentally; I was in a decline. I needed a break to sort my mind out.โ
That break lasted for two and a half years, and evidently was just what Daniels needed, as she has won all four bouts since coming back in April 2022, including the IBF title fight last time out.
Not bad, considering Daniels for a while thought she was done with boxing โ until that familiar opponent, weight gain, showed up for another round.
โIโd started putting weight back on,โ she says. โI wasnโt planning to fight again, but I was sitting there at 100kg and rang my coach [John Conway] and said โI need a fightโ. This time it lit a fire under me and Iโm looking at it as a career now.โ
Daniels is now nursing part-time so she can devote more time to training, and in the wake of winning the IBF belt has secured a three-fight contract with D & L Events, a major promoter in Australia and New Zealand. But this only came after another flirtation with retirement.
โAfter winning the โworldโ title, I felt Iโd achieved everything, and I was thinking in terms of making a living. I was living in the gym, literally, only getting paid when I fight, and I was a bit homesick,โ she says of basing herself in the big city of Auckland, when she comes from a tiny village 125 miles away.
โI was born and raised in Pipiwai. Itโs a mostly Maori community, everyone knows everyone,โ she says. โItโs quite isolated. Thereโs not much for the youth to do, thereโs not much work. Itโs mainly agriculture.โ
Remember how Frank Bruno was carried through London on an open-top bus and cheered by thousands after he won the WBC heavyweight title in 1996?
Well, they did things a little differently in Pipiwai (population 234) when Daniels came home with her belt.
โI was brought in on a tractor!โ she laughs!
โActually, it was pretty cool, the parade. It was awesome, it was packed. There was a traditional Maori welcoming, we did a haka, there were speeches, and there were heaps of kids, which was the highlight.โ
Though she doesnโt have any of her own, Daniels loves children. She dotes on her dozens of nieces and nephews, works with kids in her day job, and when sheโs at home she coaches them at Tukaha Boxing and Fitness, the village gym named after her late brother (Tukaha means โstand strongโ in Maori). She wanted to do more in her community, which is why she was thinking of hanging up the gloves, until she realised fighting on might actually be more beneficial.
โI just wanted to go home and give something back,โ she says, โbut then I reflected on it and thought if I can commit two more years to boxing, I may be able help my community more in the long run. It could inspire more people, and inspire our kids as well.
โMy boxing has always been focused on becoming a better me, and now people can see this success is the outcome of a struggle.โ
So many boxing stories are, and they never cease to be compelling. Itโs a pleasure, as a boxing writer, to be able to tell them โ and even more so when they involve the heavyweight champion of the world.