A Spark of Inspiration: Why meeting Paulie Ayala changed the life of Edward Vazquez

Edward Vazquez may not be a familiar name but on Saturday night he challenges Joe Cordina for the IBF super-featherweight belt in Monte Carlo. During this interview with Boxing News the 28-year-old gave his thoughts on facing Cordina, what his Mexican heritage means to him, the defeat to Raymond Ford, and why on Vazquezโ€™s seventh birthday he asked his father to take him to a boxing gym.

Interview: Shaun Brown


BN: In the build-up to your fight against Joe Cordina he has said, โ€œYouโ€™ve got to be special to beat meโ€. What do you think?

EV: Heโ€™s a world champion for a reason. If you have to be special, then Iโ€™m special because you donโ€™t get these calls for any reason. I hope he doesnโ€™t think heโ€™s going [in] against a bum or somebody thatโ€™s not meant to be here. I think with him saying that it shows heโ€™s a little bit arrogant. Boxingโ€™s boxing, you donโ€™t have to be anyone special.


BN: How does the fight play out?

EV: I see it like a chess match. I plan to give him a whole bunch of different looks. Whatever frustrates him the most and whatever gives him the most trouble weโ€™ll go with. Weโ€™re not just gonna come with your traditional Mexican style. Iโ€™ll give him a taste [though] and if it works it works and if not, weโ€™ll box around. Iโ€™m in 20-round shape, Iโ€™m gonna figure it out and break him down.


BN: What do you think of your career so far?

EV: Itโ€™s been a hell of a journey. It definitely hasnโ€™t been easy. If you look at my Boxrec, Iโ€™ve fought a lot of good fighters and the majority of the time I was on the B-side. I didnโ€™t have a whole lot of backing until very recently when I signed with my management [team]. Iโ€™ve had to take whatever was given to me which meant taking on tough men. All that is credit to where Iโ€™m at now and why Iโ€™m ready to go up against a fighter like Joe Cordina because of all the trials and tribulations Iโ€™ve had to get here.


BN: Youโ€™ve fought somewhere between 125lbs and 130lbs for most of your career. Is that back and forth something you find easy to do? Does it take a toll on your body?

EV: Actually 126[lbs] was starting to get a little bit hard for me. Itโ€™s no problem, 130lbs. I feel comfortable. I donโ€™t have to be in such a calorie deficit or having to worry about sweating things out. Iโ€™m able to stay fully hydrated, stay fuelled up on my calories and get good sessions in. Moving up to 130[lbs] is definitely helping me focus more on boxing, my craft and the technique and the game plan of course and not worry so much about the weight cut. Iโ€™ve brought on really good dieticians that have taken on that part of the training camp, that part of the thinking, and taken it off my shoulders. Iโ€™m solely focused on boxing now so 130lbs [is] easy. Iโ€™ll feel strong, thatโ€™s for sure.


BN: Donald Curry, Paulie Ayala, โ€˜Mad Dogโ€™ Gene Hatcher and Stevie Cruz are all from Fort Worth like yourself. Is it a fighting city?

EV: I would say weโ€™re ageing out of that, sadly. I started boxing in the early 2000s and came up around some of those guys. Iโ€™m kind of the last of that cloth and I hope to inspire some fighters and light that spark back in them. DFW, the Dallas-Fort Worth area in particular, is a big boxing town, but not so much like it used to be, thatโ€™s for sure.


BN: Your grandfather, uncle and several cousins all boxed, so was it inevitable youโ€™d become a boxer, too? Did you have a back-up plan?

EV: We love boxing. Being Mexican, and coming from a Mexican household and Mexican heritage, itโ€™s instilled in us. I can remember putting on gloves with my brothers and my cousins at a very young age and beating each other up. It was something we loved to do. Never had a back-up plan, honestly. I have three brothers and they all play baseball; my sister plays softball; the majority of my cousins play baseball so I guess I could have been a baseball player. I played for three years as a kid all the way up to seven [years old] and then became a boxer. I always wanted to be a boxer; I think it was destined for me. Iโ€™ll run into people I havenโ€™t seen since I was a kid and theyโ€™ll say, โ€œMan, you told me you were gonna be a fighter.โ€ I always say, โ€œItโ€™s the only goal I ever had.โ€ More than that, I want to be a world champion and here we are.


BN: On your seventh birthday you asked your father to take you to a gym in Fort Worth. What prompted you to ask him and why on your birthday?

EV: You brought up Paulie Ayala earlier… around that time of me being a kid, he was a world champion; a hometown hero. I remember my dad taking us to watch him train. He signed a glove for me, took some pictures, and I think that whole experience lit a spark of inspiration in me even though I was young and didnโ€™t think of it like that. Now looking back, I know what it was. I was obsessed with the idea of becoming a boxing superstar, but my dad let me know at an early age it wasnโ€™t just gonna be for fun. If I wanted to be a boxer, I was going to have to be all in and put in work and take it seriously. Since then, Iโ€™ve been like a machine, unstoppable, super-dedicated. I really love this life and live this life.


BN: The belt youโ€™ll be fighting for has been won by Mexicans such as Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, and Juan Salgado Zambrano. Does legacy and being a part of history matter to you?

EV: Oh absolutely. Thatโ€™s everything to me, being a part of that legacy. Being from a Mexican heritage itโ€™s what carries me, gives me pride. Every time I go into the ring, I always think about that: the ones that came before me and how I have to carry that on. The Mexican style is nothing to play with.


BN: Barrera or Morales?

EV: I liked Morales. He was technical. Even to this day I feel like you could still learn from him by watching his fights back.


BN: When people hear your name, they will think about your fight against Raymond Ford. You lost but many, including Fordโ€™s promoter Eddie Hearn, thought you won. Was it easy to get over what happened?

EV: I was mad but not for long. I was pissed and cussing people out. I wanted to fight Ray Ford in the locker room as soon as we got back there. Then it just clicked that this is my journey. Iโ€™ve been on the B-side so much, but I do this because I love it. Iโ€™m very blessed to be here. After an hour or so, I chilled out, took a shower, and sat down with my girlfriend. She was even freaked out and said, โ€œAre you okay? You donโ€™t seem very upset.โ€ It wasnโ€™t hard to get over. If you know me, Iโ€™m a gym rat, so I was right back in the gym within a few days and right back to it. A lot of people do see Ray Ford as the top dog, so I look it as an indicator that I do belong with these guys at the top. Here I am now about to fight for a world title before Ray Ford.


BN: Having had four fights and four wins since then have you improved?

EV: Iโ€™ve improved a whole lot as has my mindset knowing that I have to close the show when I fight. I canโ€™t just think Iโ€™m winning the majority of the rounds and put it in cruise control. I know I have to finish the fight whether it be by knockout or dominating all the way through. Iโ€™ve realised I canโ€™t handle everything, too. I canโ€™t handle nutrition and sponsorships and setting up medicals and all this stuff. Iโ€™m more mature in that aspect. I can focus more on the boxing and let my nutritionist, my management, my promoter take care of all the rest. Iโ€™ve grown a lot in that manner. Iโ€™m a better fighter and a better person now.


BN: If you beat Cordina, is there any part of you that would like to give Ford a shot at the belt so you could get that rematch?

EV: Absolutely. Iโ€™m always the kind of guy that will fight anybody. I donโ€™t care who you are or what it is for, Iโ€™ll fight you. Me and him go back and forth sometimes on social media. Itโ€™s mainly us just messing around. I always tell him, โ€œFight me.โ€ Ray Ford is young, heโ€™s talented, I would love to fight him again.

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