James Metcalf, 25-2 (15), considered retirement after two consecutive defeats at the hands of Ted Cheeseman and Kieron Conway in 2021. He decided that a change was needed and chose to stop working with his father and trainer Shay Neary and moved over to Joe McNally’s stable. Speaking to Boxing News Metcalf explains why he gave his career another shot.ย
Interview by Shaun Brown
BN: Your trainer Joe McNally recently told Boxing News that the IBO might strip you of your title, is that right?
JM: There was talks about it. They were acting a bit funny with me over it. They were saying we never kept in touch with them during the purse bids [for the Josh Kelly fight]. I shouldnโt have to be in touch with them through purse bids. I was just waiting for the promoter to put a bid in and that I was fighting. For some reason they [IBO] thought I had to keep in touch. I donโt know what they were thinking. I think they were trying to put someone else in line for it.
BN: Was there any explanation given to you as to why Josh Kelly withdrew?
JM: Theyโve had something else in the pipeline or they didnโt want the fight. I donโt know.
BN: Where does that leave you now?
JM: My managerโs just trying to sort another fight now. Iโm ready to go. I want to try and have a big year this year.
BN: You have a top 10 ranking with the WBA and IBF. Names such as Erickson Lubin, Vergil Ortiz Jr, Magomed Kurbanov and Israel Madrimov are above you. Is it not time for you to start getting in that mix?
JM: Definitely. If itโs not gonna be one of them for a big belt or an eliminator Iโd like a half decent name from Britain to generate a bit of publicity and gain a few quid.
BN: Is there anyone youโre looking to fight?
JM: It doesnโt really matter. Thereโs a few names out there I wouldnโt mind fighting. Conor Bennโs moved to 154. He was talking about going to middleweight to fight [Chris] Eubank and that hasnโt come off. Heโs saying he wants to get straight back out for April. Iโd definitely be ready for April. Iโd love to jump into that fight. Iโd give him a much better fight than [Peter] Dobson did and I believe I win the fight.
BN: Apart from the frustration of not getting the Josh Kelly fight how have things been since beating Dennis Hogan last May?
JM: I was so over the moon to win a world title. Iโve always thought Iโd win a world title and then I come off those two losses back-to-back. I believe there was reasons behind them and thatโs the reason I carried on boxing. After going through a phase where I thought I was packing it in I finally got my hands on one. Iโm over the moon but now I really want to kick on. Iโve changed trainer, Iโm with Joe McNally and feel like things have clicked together. Iโm going to be hard to beat.
BN: Where was your head at after the losses to Ted Cheeseman and Kieron Conway?
JM: I was definitely thinking of packing it in. The training with my dad was really hard. I had a few issues with my back. I was a bit fed up with the sport and not enjoying it anymore. I got an offer to fight Kerman Lejarraga. It wasnโt for the European title, but I thought Iโm gonna give it another go, give it one last shot. Changed trainer and since then [I] started enjoying boxing again. If it keeps going like this, I donโt know when I will retire. If I stay active and keep myself in the gym, I think Iโve got a good few years left.
BN: So, what do you think has been the reason for your recent success? Is there an explanation.
JM:ย I think Iโve had a new lease of life changing trainer. The trainingโs a bit more structured around me. I felt really tired when I trained with my dad. The fight I had with Lejarraga I was worried if I was going to be fit enough. I didn’t feel tired during the fight. Working with Joe and the team they’re coming up with good gameplans, I stick to their gameplan and execute it and I donโt see myself really getting beat unless itโs someone really good on the night.
BN: What was your fatherโs reaction to you changing trainer?
JM: He was alright with it. He does wrestling and a lot of Jiu-Jitsu and he snapped his Achilles tendon and because of that he couldnโt train me. So, he sent me to train with George Vaughan. George had a little bit of trouble at the time, and I ended up going back with my dad. I was having a bit of hard time with my losses, and I just said to him about having a little change. Heโs been supportive and heโs still phoning me. It must have been hard to watch your kid in the ring. Sometimes when I was going to the ring, I could feel the nerves off him. Heโs been supportive, and still gives me advice now. He’s still a really good coach.
BN: Youโve been a pro for 12 years. Does it feel like itโs been that long?
JM: It doesnโt. Itโs gone so fast. Because I havenโt had the fights I wanted I think itโs kept me young. The amount of times that people pull out or a fight falls throughโฆ Iโve wanted to show people what Iโm about or what I can do, and the fights havenโt happened, so itโs kept me hungry. I think if Iโd had a great career from the start or had hard fights all the way through, I wouldnโt feel so fresh at 35.
BN: What do you think would have happened had you walked away? Did you have another career in mind for yourself?
JM:ย No, to be honest, I never. I donโt know what I was gonna do. I wouldโve worked to earn money, but I wouldโve always been kicking myself for not giving it another go. It wouldโve eaten away at me, I think.
BN: What do you think of the super-welterweight division at the moment?
JM: Itโs a really good weight class. Itโs probably one of the busiest out there. Thereโs a lot of people around in that weight and thereโs a few fighters looking to come up 154. You have Terence Crawford talking about it. Danny Garciaโs just moved up; Vergil Ortiz has just moved up there. Iโm not sure if Charlo will still be about. You’ve got Madrimov, Kurbanov, and Tszyu as well. I think itโs a really busy weight. if a good promoter gets in the mix there could be some really big fights.